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Anonymous

Oct 28, 2024

Is there such a charge as attempted theft other questions?

Last week, a man came into our store and attempted to con us into giving him a free ink cartridge. He claimed we had given his cartridge to the wrong person, which was impossible because he has a very unique last name. He argued with me for an hour and a half, but his story was full of inconsistencies. He described store policies and actions that we simply don’t do.

Yesterday, this same man tried to pull the same con on my boss. During his visit, he couldn’t keep his story straight, and my boss carefully observed him throughout the store. It became clear that this man might be experienced in these types of cons or theft attempts. Although we’ve never caught him outright stealing, we have caught him numerous times in the act of trying to do so. When he was arguing with me about the ink cartridges, he even said, “I’m not paying for this.”

I believe this man needs to be stopped. Is there any charge, such as attempted theft, that could be applied in this situation? Additionally, during his argument with me, he claimed to work for the police department, which I highly doubt. What steps can we take to legally address this recurring issue?

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Mark McGlynn

Dec 31, 2024

Yes, call the police and tell them that you want this person officially given notice that he is NOT welcome in your store EVER again. Once he is given that notice by the police, then if he returns to the store, he can be very easily arrested for criminal trespassing.

The guy sounds like a con artist and most likely the police have a record(s) of his prior attempts.

It is possible to arrest someone for “attempted theft”, but you will need some physical evidence to help you prove that, like in-store monitors, or independent witnesses.

As for police officers, yes, they are expected to be 100% an example to their community. While a traffic ticket won’t get an officer into any significant trouble, a criminal offense such as theft would certainly jeopardize the officer’s job. Your suspect however, is an idiot. He’s not a cop, judging from your description.

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Is there such a charge as attempted theft other questions?

A guy came into the store last week and tried to con us into giving him a free ink cartridge saying that we gave the wrong person his which was impossible. he had a unique last name. he fought with me for a full hour and a half over it. Plus there were so any inconsistancies in his story. He said…

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Anonymous

Dec 18, 2024

No there is no charge such as attempted theft. You need to kick the guy out of the store and tell him not to come back or he the police will be called. Thats it.

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Anonymous

Dec 06, 2024

Yes, all you need is the intent and the attempt. Once you’ve commited the act then it’s the actual charge of the act. So, if you attempt a homicide in CA. It would be 664/187.

Once the person dies, its a 187.

664 in CA is the Penal Code for Attempted.

I don’t know what he can be charged with. But maybe you can get a restraining order against him for harrassment of some kind. But you would need to file a report on this incident, so I would call the police dept.

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Anonymous

Jan 30, 2025

This sounds like attempted fraud. It is illegal, but it might me difficult to prove. Basically it is your word against his. If he comes back, you might want to ask him to put is grievances in writing. If he lies in writing and you can prove it you will have a good case. Don’t put up with him for an hour and a half. If you are stern with him, I have the feeling he will look for an easier mark. You can tell him to leave the store if you feel he has no legitimate business there. If he persists, call the police. I would just say,

“We need to see your story in writing before we replace your ink cartridge. This is a place of business. We don’t have time to argue with you, so if you don’t want to buy anything you are going to have to leave.”

Con men often attempt to pass themselves off as being affiliated with the police. If he said he was a police officer and he is not, this is an criminal offense. I notice he only said he works for the police. You might offer to call the police so some of his work buddies can stop by and visit him while he is bothering you.

A police officer who breaks the law while on or off duty can be thrown off the force. If the officer committed a serious offense it is almost a certainty. It is very important for a police officer not to break laws. Your con-man is no cop.

Take him up on his dare next time. Call the police. You might even want to have somebody in the back room do it without his knowledge. Agree on a phony code phase that you would never actually say, but that sounds very routine. This code phrase will serve as a signal to let a coworker know that the con man is in the store and they need to call the police. It might be something like a request to order a product that you don’t carry. If you go this route, don’t tell him to leave. Try to keep him in the store until the police arrive. When they get there I bet his demeanor will change completely. You might even want to notify the police before hand. Let them know that a man has been trying to con you, and you would like them to come and talk to him the next time he does it.

Attempted theft or robbery, or robbery by deceit.

It is difficult to prosecute, such cases as they are difficult to prove in court, beyond the reasonable doubt.

The policeman have to maintain very clean record. So what he said is true.

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Anonymous

Dec 12, 2024

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answer: Possibly because you used the words “stole” and “Christianity” in the same sentence. Many of them don’t acknowledge the pagan roots of Christianity and the fact that the religion has more in common with paganism than Judaism. Enough of them took offense to get the question deleted. Appeal the violation. Point out logically, exactly how it was a question and it wasn’t insulting (or whatever reason Y gives you). # # # I believe I answered the question that I’m not angry at Christians. I do try and point out that the holidays (and most rituals and trappings) in Christianity were originally pagan.

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Anonymous

Jan 19, 2025

He may work for the police department but telling you….. that was his downfall because; yes it’s a crime to steal and if you take something and get caught but don’t leave with it it’s up to the store manager to decide if you will face charges. But as a person that works in or for law inforcement, he’s is expected to demonstrate a greater respect for the law. So if you report him to the police department they can tell you if he works for them as well as counsel him about the laws regarding aggravated harassment and other charges that your boss could charge him with just in the way that he is presenting himself. He may be in dispatch but he still is has to adhere to the rules of a policeman. Call your police department and ask to speak to an officer and tell them what’s going on. make sure you have his name. If you can it would be nice to know what he does for the police as well as a recording lying saying that he was one.

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Anonymous

Jan 31, 2025

Well, during that mention of the police dept. Did anyone ask to see his I.D., or his name – to confirm that info with the P.D? If not…then if he’s stupid enough to try it again…that’s the first thing I would get from him. And legally, you can ask him to leave (being that your store has the legal right to refuse service to anyone). And if he refuses…then call the police and charge him with illegal trespass for not leaving the property upon request.

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