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Anonymous

Jan 17, 2025

HINDUS; ”Paapi Chraayuh ” ( A sinner lives long) .Where from this bit is taken?what is the full Sloka?

HINDUS: "Paapi Chraayuh" (A sinner lives long). Where is this phrase derived from, and what is the complete verse? I would appreciate it if you could share your knowledge on this topic.

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Anonymous

Feb 03, 2025

rāja-putra ciraṁ jīva –

A king’s son who indulges in sinful activities is blessed by the sage to live forever so that upon his death he does not have to enter the hell to suffer for his sinful acts.

rāja-putra ciraṁ jīva

mā jīva muni-putraka |

jīva vā mara vā sādho

vyādho mā jīva mā mara ||

Below, Śrīla Prabhupāda narrates the story contained in the verse above.

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Founder-Acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness

So today is the Disappearance Day of my guru maharaj. As I told you, that sadhava jiva ma maro va. There was a nice story, the other day I told you that a sage is giving different kinds of blessings to different types of persons. So to a king’s son, a prince, he blesses: raja putra ciran jiva. You are a king’s son, a prince. You live forever. And muni putra. A son of a saintly person, he blesses him: ma jiva ma jiva. You don’t live. Raja putra ciran jiva muni putra ma jiva. And sadhu, devotee, he blessed him: jivo va maro va. Either you live or you die, as you like. And there was a butcher, he blessed him: ma jiva, ma mara. you don’t die, you don’t live.

These words are very significant. That I have already explained, and still I am explaining. The prince is enjoying sense, that is all. He has got enough facility for sense enjoyment. So his next life is hellish because if you indulge in sex life then Krsna will give you facility to have sex life three times in the hour. Just like the pigeons, the monkeys, the sparrows, they are very sexually strong. You have seen it, so that facility is given. So, the princely order are after sense enjoyment; so his blessing is that better you live forever because after your death you do not know what is going to happen to you — you are going to get a hellish life. Better you live for some time. Go on with your enjoyment.

And muni putra ma jiva — brahmacari working under strict disciplinary guidance of his spiritual master, he is blessed: ma jiva. You better die because you are so trained to enter into the kingdom of God, so why should you take so much trouble? Better you die and go back to Godhead.

And a devotee he blessed: jiva va maro va. My dear devotee, either you live or die, the same. And the butcher he blessed him: ma jiva ma mara. Don’t live, don’t die. What is he to do? His living condition is so abominable; from the morning he has to slaughter so many animals — the blood stains, the ghastly scene. That is his livelihood. So what a horrible life this is. So don’t live. And don’t die also, because after death, he is going to be in so much hellish condition. Nobody can describe. So both lives — living condition and death, after death, his condition is very horrible.

He concludes the story by stating there is no difference for his spiritual master’s appearance or disappearance. Both are same for him:

Anyway, apart from others, the devotee — appearance and disappearance — the same thing. Just like when my spiritual master appeared at Jagannatha Puri, he was the son of a very big government officer, Bhaktivinoda Thakura.

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Anonymous

Dec 05, 2024

As long as sinners keep living that way, they keep accumulating karma, and hence they keep coming back into mortal life. Hence, they are ever living and never dying. That’s all.

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Anonymous

Feb 08, 2025

”Paapi chirayu” (Sinners live long). They live long because they are not wanted either in heaven or hell.

Sorry, I do not know the shloka.

Thanks for reminding the proverb.

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Anonymous

Feb 08, 2025

Lots of explanation and translations in every region which are myopic or talking against virtues.

So do not indulge in to such ‘senseless lines’ provided you wish to smear your character with mud like literature. Also if you agree then it is easy to commit Sin/s and liver Chirayu.

This is not the knowledge and in fact those who are against Hindus will be happy to proclaim something myopic meanings.

My question to you is do you believe in this ‘Sinner live long and do is it fit with good side of your character?

Why carry useless garbage on your head and mind and live?

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Anonymous

Jan 03, 2025

”Paapi Chraaya” [ A sinner lives long] He is a Idol worshipper,

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